Ramone entered the scene when The Ramones were churning out mediocre material Come on. We can't have everyone from ELO. Colin Walker was there for one measly album. I'm open to hearing more arguments though. Nice work Joseph.
Eldorado marks the first album on which Jeff Lynne hired an orchestra; on previous albums, Lynne would overdub the strings. Louis Clark co-arranged with Lynne and keyboardist Richard Tandy and conducted the strings, and would eventually go on to become a full member of the band. This page was an excellent idea, as well as putting the snubbed members on the inducted acts' pages. Always give credit where credit is due, no matter how deserving they were or weren't. Take Dave Navarro. He may be satisfied he's not inducted with the Chili Peppers, but he knows Jane's Addiction was where he made his real mark.
This non-inducted member debate was brought to my attention when I saw Elton John nearly 3 years ago at Bonnaroo. Elton introduced the band, and he mentioned Nigel Olsson, who has been with him since Day One. Day One! Then I wondered, 'Well, why isn't he inducted with him? It'll be a never-ending argument for sure. Take the Beach Boys, or what's left of them. I saw Mike Love and Bruce Johnston perform two years ago, with a bunch of younger guys on stage. So what about the guys who play with the current lineup?
That always gets people scratching their heads Posted by Jason Voigt on Friday, I appreciate your comments, Casper! Point taken on the members who only played on a single, non-debut album. To have them included is a stretch. I figured that if Wilf is recognized, so should Colin.
As for Skip Spence, I'm not sure about him being an original member, but he was the drummer on the debut album. I feel that the Spiders From Mars are not the only ones who deserve recognition for David Bowie's success. His other group with Carlos Alomar and company was just as significant because they were part of his next great era Young Americans, Station To Station, the "Berlin" trilogy, and Scary Monsters.
It's a shame they don't have a fancy nickname like the one associated with Mick Ronson's group. Steely Dan wasn't just a duo on their first 3 albums, at least. I'm thinking that if the Rock Hall inducted all the original members of Heart and Pretenders other than the Wilson sisters and Chrissie Hynde, the original Steely Dan group deserve it as well. Posted by Joseph on Friday, Posted by Bill G on Sunday, I think your argument for Alonzo Tucker may have some merit. When did he leave The Midnighters? Posted by Casper on Monday, I do think these three members of Steely Dan need to be added He was there early on and for two significant enough albums.
I see Norma Jean Wright was added above for Chic. I was kind of on the fence with her given her very short tenure with the band, but she sang on some classic songs and was their first vocalist. Plus, I think the Hall's own ballot information had her listed as a would-be inductee. I think an argument can also be made on behalf of Don Ciccone and Gerry Polci who were the main vocalists for the Four Seasons during their brief, but notable comeback in '70s.
Valli was really trying to detach from the group at that point and distinguish himself as a solo artist.
Posted by Philip on Monday, FRL, these got skipped over when I sent in my initial list. Posted by Casper on Tuesday, Posted by Joe on Friday, Joe, the recordings are what matter and neither Pete Best or Stu actually played on any official recordings released by The Beatles.
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Their eligibility date is determined by the start of their recording career which is the "Love Me Do" single. Likewise, if we didn't care about members having played on the actual records, then there would be literally hundreds of snubbed people who left bands before they began recording or were mostly just touring members. And at the end of the day, the recorded legacy is mostly all that remains for any given artist. Nobody is going to remember some random touring keyboardist from to , etc.
Some of these are very odd. Bruce Johnston really stands out as someone who has been a Beach Boy for a long time, and unlike in some of the other cases such as Bob Welch and Fleetwood Mac there does not seem to be any animosity from other members that might lead to a deliberate snub. John Dalton is also a surprising omission. It seems as if in the early years the Hall generally had stricter standards as to who the core members of a group were and since then has gotten somewhat but not entirely more liberal. Posted by James K.
The time element for some newer artists is not long enough when you have some who've waited decades. Music always evolves , as past inspires future. If you're truly deserving, your time will come for newer artists. They are truly the most unappreciated artists in the business, yet they have lasted over 5 decades because their fans love them so much. The Osmonds Posted by Mandy Bridges on Thursday, Posted by Nicky Joe on Friday, His snub was ludicrous. Posted by Kj on Sunday, Posted by Rydall on Tuesday, I'm not an expert on Frank Zappa, but after reading stuff about the man and his band Mothers of Invention , I just realized that an update needs to be made on the list of members on this page.
Missing from the first wave of Mothers are guitarist Elliot Ingber who was a member on their debut "Freak Out! After Zappa disbanded the Mothers, he reformed the group with a new set of members Napoleon Brock who is already listed is from the last wave of the Mothers I hope you consider adding these important members of the first 2 waves of the band: 1. Elliot Ingber - guitars 2. Billy Mundi - drums 3. Mark Volman a. Howard Kaylan a. Aynsley Dunbar - drums 6. Jim Pons - bass. Posted by Joseph on Wednesday, The final version of The Mothers is a mess of so many different players, so you might also want to consider removing Napoleon Brock from the list in order to limit the "snubees" to just the first 2 versions of the group.
Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, Beastie Boys: John Berry Guitar Kate Schellenbach Drums It's understandable why these two were not included; the group wasn't nominated for recording "Pollywog Stew". But they were first eligible 25 years after it, so in the interest of being complete here Posted by Carl Stone on Saturday, The rules stating an artist can't be nominated into the RandR HOF because he or she was in more then one group AkaThe voice Johnny Meastro who is punished for being in 2 great groups The Crest and Brooklyn Bridge and till his passing still sod out arenas around the country is not just ridiculous but very very sad should be changed.
Len weinman. Posted by Len weinman on Sunday, Posted by dmg on Sunday, Bob Marley and the Wailers should have been inducted, not just Marley All three of these artists are at the top of the reggae influential class. As for the second-tier Wailers, the Barrett Brothers Carlie and Aston deserve entry, as they were the rhythm section for the Wailers' entire existence. Posted by Barry on Wednesday, Posted by Debbie P.
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Posted by William Hydock on Monday, Marshall Tucker Band and Megadeth each have their own pages on this site. Posted by dmg on Monday, Visited the Rock Hall. Besides the Beatles Stones and Elvis the rest of the displays were small. What was Beyonnce and Lady Gaga doing on the wall? They say Modern Artists influenced by inductees. Its about Money. And by the way If John Denvers Lyrics Leaving on a Jet Plane are on their wall over the registers at the gift shop isnt he good enough to be in it? Rolling stone has 2 floors showing how important they are..
Their name is a rip off of a band, not even original. Posted by Dennis Freeman on Sunday, Posted by Roy on Monday, Posted by Jacquelyn Romagnano on Friday, No excuses! Enough said. Singer, Thayer, and St. John, not so much. Posted by VFT on Wednesday, Tandy still serves alongside Lynne as a multi-instrumentalist, co-orchestrator, and valued musical partner.
Two paragraphs later Three more paragraphs later The times, and Lynne's mind, were changing: He was sick of touring and getting tired of strings. The band's frantic pace of releasing ten albums in ten years and constant road work was coming to an end. The band was shrinking as well, as Lynne whittled down his supporting cast to a core of Tandy, Bevan, and Groucutt. Each was worthy in its own way, generating a hit or two, but did not produce the sustained fire that had powered ELO through the previous decade.
By , having met all contractual requirements for ELO, Lynne retired the band name for fifteen years. One paragraph later, two mistakes Lynne returned to the ELO moniker for Zoom in , although this was essentially a solo album.
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Surprisingly, ELO proved to be a phoenix as a live act in September , performing before fifty thousand enthusiastic fans in London's Hyde Park. The twenty-first-century iteration of ELO also features Richard Tandy, whom Lynne calls, "my lifetime mate in that band. He assisted Jeff Lynne and Richard Tandy in writing string arrangements as well. He later played synthesizers for the band during their Time tour. In he returned to conduct the strings on the Secret Messages album.
In he played keyboards with ELO on their small number of live dates. Rick, I want to thank you for your recent post on ELO. You presented insight that I had not thought about and information I did not know. I never had the chance to see them live. I really did not keep up with them afterward. I had my daughter and life suddenly got very busy! Tom and Jeff nail the vocal and Prince blows everyone away on guitar. Everyone should take a few minutes and watch the clip. First George then Prince and now Tom gone I am as everyone here knows a huge Moody Blues fan and thought they deserved the nomination first.
My favorite ELO song is "Mr. Blue Sky". Posted by Sue on Sunday, Rik Emmett is a masterful guitar artist who raised the bar for other guitarist with his lightning fast complex guitar solos and undeniable stage presence. And his vocals? Outstanding range!! Gil Moore's drumming and vocals offered a unique complexity of talent to this power trio, and Mike Levine rocked the bass cooler than anyone else, not to mention producing the vinyl behind the band.
Millions of fans across Canada, the USA and around the world have cherished this rock trio for their gift to music and their celebration of rock and roll. TRIUMPH deserves to be nominated for their influential role in developing a style of rock'n'roll that should be celebrated and remembered. Posted by Nancy Inch on Wednesday, Also, with the nomination of the Moody Blues, I'm wondering The Denny Laine club Posted by Philip on Wednesday, I was looking to see who this year's Snubbed Members would be.
Denny Laine was snubbed the first time because Paul McCartney was understandably inducted as a solo artists rather as the leader of Wings. Fair enough. Being snubbed the second time as a member of the Moody Blues is not so fair. Posted by Timothy Horrigan on Wednesday, Going all the way back to the inaugural class, you snubbed at least one Supreme who should have at least made the list of Snubbed Members. Jean Terell replaced Diana Ross in , and of course she is no Diana Ross, but she was a notable diva in her own right who sang the lead on several unforgettable singles.
After Terell left, there were also 2 more lead singers. Posted by DGU on Thursday, The Band are an interesting case. They broke up in and were inducted in They have no Snubbed Members on this list. But 3 of the 5 original members resumed their recording career in the s and made some pretty good records with a core of other musicians, who would have counted as "Snubbed Members" had the original quintet been inducted after the s.
Posted by Timothy Horrigan on Saturday, If they really wanted to induct Denny Laine, just do another retroactive backing group induction and have him get in with Wings. There's still a number of "backing" groups that can be added. But this all just seems par for the course with the Hall. Posted by Steve Z on Friday, Posted by Pablo Rodas on Wednesday, Bruce Johnston The Beach Boys Cindy Birdsong The Supremes Sonny Turner The Platters Joe Long The Four Seasons Signe Toly Anderson Jefferson Airplane Bob Welch Fleetwood Mac Richie Ramone Ramones Ric Grech Traffic Howie Johnson The Ventures Anthony Phillips Genesis Alonzo Tucker The Midnighters John Rutsey Rush Nick Simper Deep Purple Peter Banks Yes Clint Warwick The Moody Blues.
Posted by Roy on Saturday, Bruce Johnston of The Beach Boys has been a member for 53 years thought he could of been inducted with them. He was on important records like Pet Sounds and Good Vibrations. Produced 2 Beach Boy albums. You can't tell me he was an insignificant member who didn't contribute anything. Posted by Rob on Tuesday, I followed the Moody Blues from my youth in the 60's to present day. Each era had a distinct musical feel and I like them all. His keyboard contributions were significant and it is the right thing to do. Posted by OldDrummer55 on Tuesday, I'm thinking the Beach Boys didn't bother to ask which members of their band are being inducted, but Mick Jagger took the effort and did!
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